tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post116521240862021552..comments2024-03-14T02:51:06.342-07:00Comments on DETAILED TWANG: THE ROLLING STONES : “WE LOVE YOU / DANDELION” 45Jay H.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06153081608332918241noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-43220319865190645092010-07-02T00:42:23.508-07:002010-07-02T00:42:23.508-07:00The lyrics are about lines of cocaine. They are as...The lyrics are about lines of cocaine. They are as cynical as the "We Love You" lyrics. This was not an attempt to be "authentic" hippies. This is one of their best singles, and is definitely not shite.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-57754498360404355652008-07-16T15:17:00.000-07:002008-07-16T15:17:00.000-07:00Both are terrific songs and proof that the Stones ...Both are terrific songs and proof that the Stones weren't hung up on their image as you seem to be. Brian Jones' work throughout the psychedelic period and beyond is extraordinary and I never doubt for a moment that these guys "mean(t) it, man" when they wrote/sang those songs just as much as any of their more conventional "rock" songs. Such a shame that somebody who supports unusual music such as yourself would come off as so short-sighted and conservative in relation to the Stones taking some real chances. And yes, We Love You is satirical...hello???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-85182333470283537942007-09-06T18:14:00.000-07:002007-09-06T18:14:00.000-07:00"All Sold Out" -- Between the Button's unsung rock..."All Sold Out" -- Between the Button's unsung rocker!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165509113890491622006-12-07T08:31:00.000-08:002006-12-07T08:31:00.000-08:00"Street Fighting Man" might be opportunistic (I ca..."Street Fighting Man" might be opportunistic (I can't deny it), but, damn, that record sounds great, from the killer opening with the acoustic guitar strum and heavy backbeat, to the end with that Middle-Eastern sounding instrument kicking in. <BR/><BR/>"Dandelion," on the other hand... well, I like it, too, but I'll side with SFM.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165359853766748572006-12-05T15:04:00.000-08:002006-12-05T15:04:00.000-08:00Goddamn, I love "Dandelion"; maybe 'cause I'm a to...Goddamn, I love "Dandelion"; maybe 'cause I'm a total Stones agnostic, I'd rather hear their fruity stuff, then their "street fighting man" pose: now THAT'S opportunisic hackery!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165347851177265752006-12-05T11:44:00.000-08:002006-12-05T11:44:00.000-08:00I also really dig the 45 and totally agree with th...I also really dig the 45 and totally agree with the above comments regarding the brilliance of the UK version of "Between the Buttons". I am a big believer that the glory period of the Stones started with Aftermath and carried through Beggars (with BTB being the peak). Surprised you took the "We Love You" so literally, Jay...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165331913139992802006-12-05T07:18:00.000-08:002006-12-05T07:18:00.000-08:00Jay,To be sure, BTB is a rock and roll album, thou...Jay,<BR/><BR/>To be sure, BTB is a rock and roll album, though not in the same vein as the Stones albums that have passed into canon. I think Between the Buttons is overlooked because: 1) after it was released, the Stones had any number of legal and personal drama that for a variety of reason caused the album to be orphaned; 2) it does not fit into the casual Stones fans' conception of what the Stones are about; 3)it does not fit into Keith and Mick's projected image of the Stones; 4)most people are only familiar with the US version. I've got a 500 word introduction to a book that ought to be written about Between the Buttons that spells this out much better. <BR/><BR/>Sorry to hijack the thread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165295713555872832006-12-04T21:15:00.000-08:002006-12-04T21:15:00.000-08:00Yeah, but didn't Rudy Giuliani play bass on "Respe...Yeah, but didn't Rudy Giuliani play bass on "Respectable"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165281599571792292006-12-04T17:19:00.000-08:002006-12-04T17:19:00.000-08:00Whoa, Jay -- both these songs are classics! "We L...Whoa, Jay -- both these songs are classics! "We Love You," especially -- wasn't this the Stones' ultra-sarcastic "tribute" to/assault on hippiedom? Plus, old-timers like myself remember that these were the last two songs on side two of "More Hot Rocks," one of the greatest artist compilations ever. (Side three skimmed off the best of "Satanic Majesties"). "Aftermath", "Between the Buttons" -- both stone classics! You can't go wrong!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165280527832820022006-12-04T17:02:00.000-08:002006-12-04T17:02:00.000-08:00Everything Rudy Giuliani has done via his politica...Everything Rudy Giuliani has done via his political posturing (especially post 9/11) is far more calculated and empty than this 45 - he's the real phony. KIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165278979505793312006-12-04T16:36:00.000-08:002006-12-04T16:36:00.000-08:00Spills, great comment as always, especially "Peopl...Spills, great comment as always, especially "People would rather think of the Stones nodding off at Nellcote than mincing about in Edwardian Mr. Fish gear...". You know, I don't at all think of BETWEEN THE BUTTONS the way you represent it. That is a rock and roll album through and through - Connection, Yesterday's Papers, Let's Spend The Night Together etc. - not at all like the decent but somewhat mockable "Satanic Majesties". Even that album, foppish as it is, has some real tough & dirty stuff on it like "Citadel" that I love. But I can't help thinking of the We Love You/Dandelion 45 that came between the two as a real calculated move to smooch the hippie generation hard, and really ridiculous-sounding to boot. I may be all alone on this one.Jay H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06153081608332918241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165278307022429792006-12-04T16:25:00.000-08:002006-12-04T16:25:00.000-08:00I like "Dandelion" and "We Love You". Rather than...I like "Dandelion" and "We Love You". Rather than opportunism, I think these songs represented a side of the Stones (Jagger-Richards, actually) that manifested itself several times earlier. These songs are simply souped up psychedeliczed poesy from the same team that gave us "As Tears Go By" and a variety of other heavily orchsetrated MOR rock. (See, e.g. Metamorphosis).<BR/><BR/>Jay, I have no doubt that you honestly dislike this record. I do think that many people bag on the Stones' foray into psychedelia because it doesn't square with the popular conception of the band -- a conception no doubt fostered by the band -- namely the Stones as swashbuckling bad boys with their roots set deep in the blues. People would rather think of the Stones nodding off at Nellcote than mincing about in Edwardian Mr. Fish gear.<BR/><BR/>I maintain that Between the Buttons is the Stones' great unsung masterpiece. The new conventional wisdom is that Satanic Majesties is a decent album that was unfairly compared to Sgt. Peppers, which is a fair assessment. Now is the time for to for us to rev up the PR machine to place Between the Buttons alongside such newly minted classics as The Kinks are the Village Green Preservation Society and Odyssey and Oracle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165263336295588162006-12-04T12:15:00.000-08:002006-12-04T12:15:00.000-08:00I wrote a post but I think it didn't go through be...I wrote a post but I think it didn't go through because I wasn't logged in to the new Beta Blogger/Google deal.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, I was reminded of something Roger Miller told me when I interviewed him about the Sproton Layer - that at the time they felt themselves to be in the throes of some type of revolutionary moment, and that it involved, as he said, "'Yellow Submarine', the MC5, THE WHOLE THING."<BR/><BR/>I wrote something about childhood being a big thing in "the Surrealist adventure" and that if "Dandelion" deals a bit in cliches, it nevertheless sounds much more committed than certain other nursery-rhyme-as-surreal-content songs from the time (Yardbirds, Traffic, etc.). I think the Stones were always the real deal. "Dandelion" is a gem and "We Love You" has that great part - what is it the chorus? the bridge? the bridge, maybe - the "We don't care if you hound we" etc. part. That's really propulsive and sort of typical of their great '66-'67-era sound.<BR/><BR/>(OK, I figured out how to log in before posting comment now.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165255825779437612006-12-04T10:10:00.000-08:002006-12-04T10:10:00.000-08:00I don't think even Marlon Richards was born at thi...I don't think even Marlon Richards was born at this point, so I think Keith's daughter was more likely named after the song rather than the other way around. <BR/><BR/>I do agree that "We Love You" is sarcastic - I thought it was a kiss off to the authorities that had tried to jail Jagger and Richards.<BR/><BR/>Are the songs any good? I don't know I haven't heard either of them in years. I'd have to dig them out. Certainly not my favorites of theirs, but I don't remember being all that horribly annoyed by them either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36274466.post-1165254972955863822006-12-04T09:56:00.000-08:002006-12-04T09:56:00.000-08:00I like both those songs. "We Love You" is SUPER sa...I like both those songs. "We Love You" is SUPER sarcastic (we love you....of COURSE we do!) and the piano figure is nice.<BR/>I believe "Dandelion" is about Keith Richard's daughter....not groovy peacenicks.<BR/>Okay, you're right, I'm a hippie!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com